Are NAS Hard Drives worth it, or are they a big Con? – Featuring WD Red and Seagate Ironwolf

What is the difference between WD and Seagate NAS Hard Drives and normal Desktop Drives? https://www.span.com/search/NAS_space_HDD/1-

With such a big emphasis on NAS being the answer to all your problems,it is easy to forget that even the best NAS that you can buy is no use to you if you don;t buy the right drives.|

The two big leaders in this field are WD and Seagate with their respective WD Red range and Seagate NAS Drives. But which one is better? which one is better for your needs and most importantly of all, which one deserves your data?

For more information of the specs, compatibility and where to buy, please check the link below. Enjoy.

http://www.span.com/product/Western-Digital-Red-WD40EFRX-SATA-6Gb-4TB-5400-7200~41629

http://www.span.com/product/Seagate-Enterprise-NAS-HDD-ST4000VN0001-SATA-6Gb-4TB-7200rpm~46648

Western Digital have long established themselves as one of the leading manufacturers of hard drives across the world. But it’s easy to be lost in all the different types and specs. Which drive is suitable, which drive will do the best job and how do I navigate a sea of hard drives without a map?

That is where WD’s simple colour scheme comes in. Today we want to help you know which drive suits your needs. As always all products mentioned are available now from SPAN.COM. Just remember:

WD Blue for Everyday –
http://www.span.com/search/wd_space_blue

WD Green for Quiet & Cool –
http://www.span.com/search/wd_space_green

WD Black for Hi-Performance & Gaming – http://www.span.com/search/wd_space_black

WD for NAS, RAID and all things Network – http://www.span.com/search/wd_space_red

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Comments

josh s says:

sounds like a load off bullshit to be honest. the nas disks are just rebranded standard hard drives. there not sever drives..

LokiDaFerret says:

I reckon all the drives are made in the same factory. Those that have issues during QA process become “desktop” drives. Those that passed exceptionally get a different sticker with a higher price tag.

Landon Dick says:

Keep posting more videos my friend! The warranties alone make most of these worth it. As well as the vibration sensing functions.

Mika Hakinen says:

Is there any drawback of using NAS HDD (let’s say IronWolf Pro) as a regular HDD?

Eddie Strike says:

I got blue and green drives in my NAS. Because fuck you that’s why

peter hughes says:

Not sure if I understood this properly but you appear to discuss how NAS drives are better (without any factual evidence) than traditional drives, saying it’s because they are designed for NAS units. Then right at the end you state that SSDs are fantastic DESPITE not being designed to be used in this way.
This would seem to contradict everything you said a few minutes earlier. Would you care to clarify please and maybe point me in the right direction? Thanks. Peter

Jason Whitehurst says:

Get the Enterprise class Samsung SSD’s which are deisgned for NAS / SAN and have a much higher write / read warranty. They are twice as much however.

Phead128 says:

No presentation of Data, Graphs, Statistics. Need facts not opinions and marketing narrative

Brandon Chappell says:

In the video you compare NAS drives to desktop solutions, what about in comparison to enterprise drives?

seecarr11 says:

SSDs in a NAS… *drools* Great vid. thanks for clearing that up. i was wondering if the red and purple drives were just branding gimmicks as well. 4 X 3TB using blues over a few years were my original plan. i’ll just have to downsize to 2tb so i can afford the reds as u suggested for now

CipherBytes says:

Folks, are they better? Yes, but these manufacturers and sellers are NOT TELLING YOU THE WHOLE STORY. The devil is in the details, yet they like to generalize to get a few more bucks out of you.

It’s this simple………….the average home user with a NAS is not going to use it like a business would! These sellers want you to believe that since your NAS is always on, your hard drive is also always running. Not true. That is a lie!

Desktop hard drives are not meant to run 24/7, this is true. It’s also true that ANY hard drive run 24/7 will wear out. One built for full time use will (may) simply take longer to die. It’s important to consider if your NAS really will cause that 24/7 use. Many NAS solutions will shutdown a drive that is not being used to conserve power.

Additionally, if you run a NAS with a spare computer running Windows 7 (easy way), like I do, the OS will hibernate when not in use. Are you actually reading from it 24/7? Probably not! Your hard drive probably is not even running 8 hours a day which IS well within the expected use for a desktop rated hard drive.

Now, someone will argue I am wrong but you’ll need to prove me wrong because in 7 years of running my NAS, I have only had a hard drive fail me once! I recovered quickly because I had a backup. Again……once! I have 6 hard drives running in my NAS. Each for a specific purpose (Moves, New Movies, Games, Apps, Music, Uploads).

To be fair, I do run multiple hard drives, which spreads out the load. Running a single drive would be used more, but certainly not 24/7.

In fact, I am more likely to update my hard drives to larger drives FAR BEFORE I reach a common age for a failure. You too!

Michael says:

My synology DS 215+ Killed 2 3TB WD Red in 2 years, Gad Dam WD!

Mechant Loup says:

Desktop drives generally provide higher performance than consumer-grade NAS drives, though, so the NAS disks’ higher cost has nothing to do with performance. And having a disk on 24/7 stresses it less than powering it up and down regularly does. An always-on home NAS, which normally never sees business-server-grade read/write loads, is probably the least stressful use case a hard drive can be put into.

Steve Morris says:

Although I do agree that NAS oriented drives are the best option, I believe that this isn’t quite the case with home NAS setups. I have had my 5 x 2 Tb Samsung Eco’s for 6 years and not had a problem. Remember, most home users do not run their units 24/7 and for the home user such as myself the drives can be set to spin down after a period of inactivity and so you can have your NAS turned on all the time but the drives will not be running all that time.

In addition, the transfer rates and large caches for the NAS oriented drives are less of a factor for the home user that is connecting via a standard 1 Gigabit Ethernet cable which will cap transfer rates to a max of around 125 Mb/sec and with protocol overheads will be typically significantly less than that.

The unsuitability of desktop drives as you put it to be used for RAID isn’t quite the case. Any drive can be configured as such and as I understand it the quantity of data written per drive in a RAID 5 setup will actually be lower than a desktop drive that writes the entire file to it rather than a smaller part of it so I don’t quite see how that argument against desktop drives holds up. Of course, I accept I may have got some of the technical facts wrong so do not offer up my counter arguments as a definitive.

Again, I will say that drives designed for NAS operation do make perfect business sense for the longer warranty alone so I’m not saying that they are a waste of money over desktop drives. Rather, I feel that for the average home user that the added cost of NAS targeted drives and their use case are not always justified.

Jon Wren says:

Hi Mate
I need you’re advice or from another subscriber 
I have a Windows 10 PC, Which I use for Downloading Videos, Edits and general use, This PC is also running PLEX and is on 24/7 and is streaming to 2 Apple TV boxes.

The PC has currently 3 HDD.
1TB – Windows 10 OS and For General Use
3TB  – Movies
4 TB – TV Series

As mentioned the PC is on 24/7 mainly for PLEX, The HDD for Movies and TV Series are on Basic PC Hard Drives.
So my question is…..
Would changing my 3TB Movies and 4TB TV Series HDD’s to Nas Drives benefit me?
Plus how would I configure them running from a Windows 10 OS for General Use of the PC and also for the PLEX Server.

Thanks in advance

Nicholas Stock says:

I can see why there are comments in this feed to the effect of “NAS drives are just desktop drives, it’s all just marketing hype”, because you have done nothing explain the difference. If you are going to present yourself as an expert and make a video about the differences between NAS and desktop HDDs then how about giving some actual details.
When you discuss firmware, don’t waste 30 seconds talking about version numbering, talk about Time-Limited Error Recovery (TLER) and how that fundamentally changes the operation of a drive in standalone vs RAID configurations. That’s what is really interesting and a critical factor between the two classes.
Talk about vibration control, VCM, mountings, form factors, interface standards, heat dissipation, failure patterns, etc. There are so many interesting differences.
Please, in future just spend a bit more time researching a topic before making the video. Some good sites to get started with are;
http://www.storagereview.com/pick_the_right_drive_for_the_job_24_7_nas_hdds_vs_desktop_hdds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_recovery_control
All the best…

kyperioth says:

Raid 10 for best performance with redundancy, 50% parity, but it can get expensive in terms of the amount of drives.

Slikdik Productions says:

Hey Robb .. can u down or up from Raid 5 to 6 or Reverse.. with out changeing drives?

Marfnl disse says:

I run my pc HDD in raid + i have my pc on 24/7 shooed i in the futer get nas HDD for me pc?
PS: sry dyslexic

Roy Telling says:

built my 1st ever PC (Ryzen 7 1700) 3 months ago.
Looking at building a NAS because my newest hobby is Video editing and my other hobby is 3D cad and modeling + good place for my music and DvD collection.
Hard drive I have heard mentioned is good for a NAS is the Seagate IronWolf??????????
could you help????????

Jason Whitehurst says:

AS a HUGE user of NAS drives, I will say they offer managed chipsets which communciate with the NAS related to performance, health ,etc. They have larger caches and they even work together to reduce harmonic distortion across the pool. I use Iron Wolf Pro drives for their 5year warranty with data recovery included for free.

WiseSilverWolf says:

Does RPM matter? i noticed the Western Digital Red’s are mostly 5400 RPM and the ones with 7200 RPM are like $90 higher on Newegg for the same capacity.

Clarence Ho says:

… ok maybe a weird question, but when should you use nas drives in a desktop and when can you use normal drives in a nas?

for example if you want to get a 2 bay nas and use raid 1 or get a 1 bay nas can you use normal hdds or do you still need nas drives? or how about if you build a gaming pc and use it as both nas and desktop?

ps just to sate my curiosity why are there 2.5inch nas drives?

Bernard Talbert says:

Checkout Backblaze’s blog reports on real world disk drive failures at https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q3-2017/

Their storage data center uses 80,000 drives of various sizes and brands. They collected and stored data for every drive for years of use. Most of their drives are the cheapest consumer drives not the expensive enterprise drives. But they have recently started comparing consumer vs enterprise for Seagate 8TB drives to see if the premium price is justified. Well so far they have found NO difference between them in failure rates!!! Both enterprise and consumer saw about 1% failure rate over same period of time.

They said the enterprise NAS drives do offer some power saving features and longer 5yr warranty vs 2yrs for consumer. But neither of those have been an issue for them. They don’t use advanced power saving features and if a drive fails they just replace it and none of their drives show a higher failure rate for consumer vs enterprise. They said they need to continue this study past the 2yr warranty of consumer drives to tell if that really is an issue for these drives or just a marketing gimmick. So its too early to make any conclusions.

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