Vertical GPU Brackets – Why NOT To Use Them!

Vertical GPU brackets are all the rage these days since they put your graphics card on full display. BUT there are some sacrifices you need to know about before installing a GPU vertically.

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Comments

Mudassir Khan says:

Maybe using a water block for the GPU will be nice…or going for a hybrid one?

Sarbovan Ioan says:

its unclear why it gives you a 5% reduction in core-clock since its better positioned for airflow

Dave Blvnko says:

what about the bottom side without fans, is it better to have space on the bottom or on the top where the fans are?

Der Hof 2007 says:

I’m mounting mine vertically no matter what you say!

Bob Americana says:

get a woman you cucked canuk

praystation says:

It’s called “riser”. Not extension cable.

blueRC says:

How about SLI though ? 😛

Canuck Brian says:

You put the cards in a case that although had support for a vertical GPU mount, it didn’t have proper clearance for airflow while the GPU’s were mounted vertically. Positioning the cards too close to the side panel and restricting airflow. That’s a design flaw in the case and has nothing to do with the way the GPU was mounted. Run those same tests with the side panel taken off, or with a case that is properly designed to allow adequate airflow to a vertically mounted GPU and I bet the results are negligible at best. This was a pointless video, and a shameless advertisement for EVGA.

Larkspeed says:

Incomplete testing IMO, if the side panel proximity was having that much effect then cards running in SLI would have the same issue as they are a lot closer together than that card was to the side panel.

To verify this there should have been a series of tests without the side panel in place to remove that proximity.

You start the video by saying you have removed the window since “it’s a choke point” yet you proceed to test only with the window in place.

It’s very possible that it could be a design abnormality within that particular model of card that is causing the performance drop when mounted vertically and may have nothing at all to do with the window since the other card saw no difference.

This set of tests needs to be repeated both with the window in place and with it removed in order for the results and therefor the conclusion to be valid.

anon amous says:

Oh my!!! Not a true Canadian paying so much for an overpriced case.

A Canadian Doge says:

Im looking at gettong the new corsair 275r for this purpose. I can see the vertical moumt slot on the back. But there is no info regarding if you actually can mount one.

Para Digm says:

use an EZDIY Riser ribbon, no performance or loss of overclocks when I mounted my 980Ti Hybrid vertically, 5% is unacceptable

FantasyCookie17 says:

What about the solution from Cooler Master? It has a lot of distance to the side panel.

Lohkin 143 says:

I assumed the vertical bracket was to help with the gpu sag issues with larger cards.

GameAholics Anonymous says:

Vertical mounting should be used for sli. I use vertical mounting brackets because i get 20 degrees cooler on my “top” card because i can space my sli set-up as needed, where top card does not suck up heat from top of bottom card.
This video was pretty close minded and negligable. Talk about running out of useful content. Lmfao. Why not do a video on HDD LED’s why not to use them. And show how epileptics can have siezure from flashing Hdd led… lol.

Kivanc Karanis says:

Epic fail. Two reasons.
1 : NO RADs SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN A POSITION TO FOLLOW HEAT DISPOSITION DIRECTION PARALLEL TO INTAKE. You just mess up everything. Your VRM, RAMs, everything. Your aim in design is to remove heat out of the box, not to increase heat inside.
2 : Vertical positioning is not something you should do with a single GPU. You use it for the 4th or 5th GPU. Remember, as rule of thermodynamics “warm air tends to level up”. So, you can never benefit from vertical alignment if you still have room for horizontal positioning (consider 4 double sized pci slots filled with 4 double sized air cooled gpus there).

Try this experiment : go by the opened door/window in your house in winter (assuming inside is warmer), fire up a cigarette lighter, put it to the bottom of the door/window and observe the flame direction, then lift it up to the top, compare the flame direction. This is exactly what you want to achieve inside the box. (reverse the experiment if you have an airconditioned room in summer where inside is cooler than outside)

Dee Dubbs says:

So crazy what people do to their machines nowadays – looks a little too much like a cobweb antenna – why you would want a 150 conductor antenna 5 inches long picking up all of the RF in your case and injecting it into your PCIE bus – which has extremely sensitive devices running at microwave wavelength, plumbed directly into the CPU is beyond me. But then RGB makes me nauseous – and I won’t buy the glass panels either because they don’t provide any EM shielding. That is the most important function of a PC case beyond protecting IC’s, preventing spurious emissions that jam your wifi, interfere with your neighbors cellphone, and shielding interior circuits from transients that occur in and around the home. Form is meant to follow function, not vice versa! But then, I am just an oild fart that just couldn’t resist taking apart his Compaq Presario. My Define S isn’t much to look at or listen too, but she’s got it where it counts – The Game On The Monitor!

Vyrisus says:

I’ve never liked the way vertical GPU’s look. I think it looks silly, but that is just my opinion.

Jama says:

It might look cool with a gpu water block.

FactLOCO says:

Nice video, although i don’t agree with the ending. If the GPU downclocks itself because of heat, you should definitely NOT overclock it to compensate 😀

Crylhound says:

What if there were intake fans pulling in fresh air through the bottom? Would that solve this problem?

o0ericj0o says:

what if the case has vents where the card would go rather than none like the case your using would it be better than for cooling?

MTB Scotland says:

use the coolermaster bracket which moves the card back from the side. you need a 7 slot PCI cage to use it. no difference in thermals with it with my msi gaming X rx480 8gb. makes it a lot easier to use the kraken G12 too.

AMDSITHLORD says:

very good video

John Lawrence Ebo says:

Vertical GPU Brackets – “WHEN” NOT To Use Them!

Dylan says:

Using vertical in my Thermaltake Core p3. Temps are nice and low on my 1070 TI, no noise either. More than likely due to the open air design.

PagerNinerTwelve says:

Chief, if you’re thermal throttling, then overclocking is NOT the answer…

sebastian bisurgi says:

Vertical mounting and glass panels are highly revealing of enthusiast pure stupidity

Petar Vasilev says:

The only use of vertical GPUs is if you watercool it and want to monitor the GPU block for corrosion/fluid colour change. You simply don’t want to vertically mount an air-cooled GPU. Unless you have a 140/200 mm fan on the side window, but then there aren’t many cases in 2018 to support that and your pretty glass window goes to hell.

Atlink says:

Two words: Signal Degradation.

Any time you connect something to something else via any kind of extension, you’re going to lose a bit of signal. (Even the connections from the pins on the slot to the pins on the card degrade the signal.) It might be minute, but it’s going to be there. That most likely explains the core clocks lowering. Also, the motherboard is expecting to deliver power across a pin, directly into the PCB of the card, not have it travel from a pin, to a wire, to another pin, then to the PCB. The wiring introduces resistance, which is going to degrade performance all around.

I know, it sounds really stupid as we’re only talking about maybe one foot of ribbon cable, but add in the idea of electromagnetic interference to wires that probably aren’t properly shielded (or have very minimal shielding) along with the signal degradation, and you’re going to get worse performance. Tiny things like that can have pretty large impacts.

If the motherboard was specifically designed with that ribbon in mind, then it shouldn’t be a problem, as there would probably be some small amplifier before the PCI-E slot. If it’s just something they added into the motherboard box as a freebie, then you’re going to experience issues.

Fügungsresistent says:

Perfect answers to questians i had for a few month

Norepi says:

Does anybody think that a GPU wtih a waterblock vertically mounted has any if not very minor disadvantages?

djmhyde says:

so, this is pc equivalent of rice

Sin Stalker says:

Well shit…

reaper forever says:

The cooler master vertical mount fits along the pcie grills so there should be more space for air intake

madmos5y says:

Vertical mounting is very much a water cooling setup, being able to view the water block in all its glory is why you would go for vertical over horizontal.

Karl Wester-Ebbinghaus says:

hi Dmitry I have heard reports the suboptimal isolation of these rise cables is a main issue of these risers, so there is where your performance drops come in. not necessarily the temps. I mean it is potientially a problem we are talking about very high frequencies here at PCI-E Gen3 and ingress does happen.

Velocity Gaming says:

Do you think the extension cable itself could have affected the clock speeds? I know nothing about that stuff, just a thought

Mark Markk says:

you cant compensate for the overheating by overclocking….when you OC a card it tends to run hotter and will throttle quicker and never get up to top gpu core clocks…the only fix is to improve airflow…i have used vertical mounts in the past and ended up putting vents on the side of my case to compensate for the loss….also if you vent the case and use the mount you can get a higher OC than if it was mounted on the MOBO in a closed case…<--in most cases

Cab00se23 says:

This is one thing that has always confused me. Hardware designers make these products with aesthetics that can only be truly appreciated if they were vertical and facing you. So why dont case designers design more cases that allow your motherboard to be laid down horizontally? You would think that the heat expulsion from components would be more uniform if the mobo would be laying down. I don’t really have a problem with vertical mounted mobos. But it makes building and cable management a bit more of a pain.

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